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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
稳！不过的确是闷/漫长了一点 最后司机被一刀直接插入口腔杀死一下子有点吓到 这竟然不是三级？！香港电检处真的应该吃屎 该做的不做 然后吧…I do get the charm of Driver but come on is it necessary to keep saying he is so dangerously handsome ?????
女性的悲剧，男性的荣耀。最后一场打斗戏惊心动魄，瞠目结舌。雷老爷子实在是太牛太牛了！
前两部分的视角展现 看似补全各自盲点和脑内优化 实则着墨过多于人 于镜头于景别完全是干瘪的议论文体裁范本一般脱水感 最后才切回 Marguerite 的自述里 力道存而滞后了些 Duel 戏一般般 RS 做这么个赔钱的项目点出这样的主题主旨 还是难得的
老雷是一个真正的女权主义者:直到第三章开始，观众才明白这部电影的野心--补全男性叙事中缺席的女性视角。最后那场决斗，隐喻了几千年以来，女人在男人的血腥斗争中永远只是一个观众，甚至是这场战斗的“战果”或者是“牺牲品”。那一个男人拼尽一切赢得的“荣誉”又是什么呢？斯科特用一段非常简单的平行剪辑揭露了这背后的虚伪和虚无:簇拥欢呼的人群只为每一个“胜者”欢呼，他们才压根不在乎“truth”。狂热的人群里，唯有玛格丽特看透了这一切。
全方位展示中世纪风土人情，路是真泥泞，头发编的是真漂亮
导演和编剧用巧妙的结构，把700年前欧洲中世纪的一桩公案，按现代的价值观诠释出来，正说明了“一切历史都是当代史”。
庆幸如今社会有进步。然鹅感觉两个男主活到了现在。
个人年度十佳！斯科特老爷子功力依然精湛。两位男主最后的决斗，堪称近些年银幕上最令我牵肠挂肚提心吊胆的一场搏杀，然而，这份动容却不是为了场上的两人……
大本和马达cp感自然得不能再自然，是因为共事，所以两个人都演得很放松吗。
往往一个女人的子宫就决定了整个世界
文戏的高潮是对玛格丽特的法庭判决，其令人窒息和揪心程度，甚至比卡鲁日、勒格里那场生死决斗的武戏，还胜一筹。雷老爷永远值得期待，全片2/3乃至4/5的铺垫，最后发现都是值得的！
非常不错
剧本大失水准，“罗生门”式叙事的一次糟糕模仿
年度观影十佳之一！Forever Ridley Scott！
强奸案是由于涉及两名骑士的决斗才被记录下来，仅仅以男性的角度记录显然是不完整的，案件的受害者失语才是整个社会的疾病。
同一件事的三个版本，老雷宝刀未老，观影过程中十分反感马特呆萌，后来想，他是不是演的太好的原因，但明明司机和女主更抢戏呀，甚至阿本也精彩过他。每个人都有自己的困境，两个男人的“相爱相杀”，背后的女人才是真正的牺牲者。战争，婚姻，友情，皆被利益这双无形的手操控着。
让人想到阿婴。虽然前者是根植于（）贞洁文化的罗生门，探讨的是女性情欲的合理性。本片是在中世纪骑士荣誉文化中，放大了真正受到损害的女性身体从未被看见，而男人以此获得荣誉的荒谬：强奸不是关于受害者，是关于其所有者的财产被损害。妻子可能受到的虐杀和自己的荣誉相比，从来不值得考虑。但是一个母亲，却承认愿意为了孩子放弃真相。人性的光辉高下立见。看得震惊难受到暂停了好几次，喝点水，吃个苹果缓一缓。结局耐人寻味。
一场决斗，三种视角。每个人认定的事实总会经过个人主观印象的美化，形成了一场说不清道不明的罗生门。所谓的真相可能无从揭露也无人关心，大众需要的只是一个定论——谁有罪。当然最后导演选择了支持女性视角。
以中世纪为背景的女权电影，一个女人被强奸了，她希望说出真相、使罪犯获得应有的惩罚，而在她之前，更多的女性如果不是全部女性在他们的保护人不在场时或许都受过这种侮辱，而她们的选择时沉默，因为说出真相或许意味着更大的伤害甚至付出生命的代价，幸好我们的主角是幸运的。
赌上所有捍卫真相，即使虚伪和暴力横行，这世界从不是你的世界，即使稍有不慎就会粉身碎骨，即使你周围没有同类只有男权的傀儡，即使没有人在乎胜利并不属于你。错就是错，罪恶就是罪恶，丑陋就是丑陋，你不是父亲的筹码、丈夫的财产、生育的机器，不是逆来顺受者，你该有思考、表达、捍卫尊严的权利。当你说不的时候，就是拒绝。
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